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An underground explosion ripped through the Pike River Coal Processing Plant Friday, Nov. 19, 2010 (AP Photo/NZPA, Martin Hunter)

“If I had my way I’d be down there, I’d go into the mine myself.”

–LAURIE DREW whose 21-year-old son is one of the 29 miners trapped in a New Zealand mine following an explosion on Friday. Rescue workers have said that poisonous gases in the mine are delaying the rescue of the miners. (via the Associated Press)

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psykomantis
psykomantis

This article is a hunk of crap.  I've been playing video games for as long as I can remember.  

I'm 36 now and I've yet to fight anybody, crash my car into a power plant, road rage, or just generally even hit a human out of anger.  
Video games don't do anything but help pass time.  Stop publishing this hogwash. 

Bring back spanking and stop putting the blame on everything else but the parents.  

We've become a bitch society these days and now we are afraid of our kids.  

MC
MC

Little by little, the news gets less interesting to read.

AtaeHone
AtaeHone

But did the long-term study incorporate looking at the kids' private lives, their social circles, their upbringing, whether they were bullied at school or bullies themselves (before and after the study)?

It's a simple phrase that has sort of become my personal motto:

"Video games do not make you a worse person than you already are."

They just provide you with an extra outlet for it. If a person would rather play games than do drugs, let them play games. If a person would rather kill polygonal persons than real ones, let them play games. If a kid would rather play games than make friends... well, first you check for the reasons for it that are not related to video games (like the circle of those potential friends, for instance), and THEN you check the game ones.

DeusXM
DeusXM

No, violent video games do not make kids more aggressive.


Poor parenting makes kids more aggressive.


Games are subject to the same age restrictions as movies, TV etc. 


Children are not supposed to be playing GTA or CoD or any of the other games that are rightly described as being for mature audiences. 


The issue, as ever, is a widespread refusal to countenance the idea that games are just like any other form of media and therefore provide a variety of options, some of which are appropriate for adults, some of which are appropriate for children. Until researchers, the media and indeed, parents, get their heads around the idea that games are not exclusively something for kids, we will continue to have to put up with these lazy alarmist studies determined to blame social problems on a vibrant and successful media sector. Because let's face it, it's far easier to blame games than it is to cope with the idea that there are parents out there who frankly aren't fit to have children.

MarcoRamirez
MarcoRamirez

This discussion has been going on for a very long time it has yet to yield any good evidence that videogames make people violent. the media only finds the idiots that play "violent Games" and say this is why he did this  and that then killed himself. Then again those people have had problems more than likely earlier in their child hood and finally took it out as a gone adult. Hell I play video games and i m just fine mentally I have no tendencies to solve a situation with violence and am able to fully comprehend my actions before I execute the m, my actions that is. Put that in your pipe and smoke mister I when to college and can’t even play video games good.

titanicwicked
titanicwicked

Video Games do not make kids more aggressive.
Video Games are am escape for most kids. if I felt angry or frustrated, i would take it out in a "violent video game" rather than take it out on people. i even did a paper on this for one of my college courses, its actually up to the parents. young age groups are exposed to games rated T(for teen) or M(for mature). Parents need to read the rating of the video games. similar to the ratings of movies. you wouldn't want your ten year old watch an R rated movie would you? then why would you purchase a video game that intended to be played by adults. It all comes down to content and parents being unaware of what they are exposing their children to. the children are not buying the video games, the parents are! People in this society are always trying to place the blame on other things instead of taking the blow themselves. It's time for Parents to step up and take responsibility and pay attention to what they are exposing their children too.

ervtr2
ervtr2

I don't think they killed their parents...

ERBear
ERBear

A study by academics may make the conclusion look more "scientific", but it really does not add or subtract anything to what is obvious by common sense.

ERBear
ERBear

Are all this research necessary, just to lead to the inevitable conclusion?  I don't need any research to know what explained my recent totally uncharacteristic outburst at my wife complete with shouting and foul language: I happened to be watching an episode of domestic violence on TV the previous night.  Some introspection unmistakably pinned my atypical behavior to that TV episode, nothing else!  I even remember my contempt for the aggressor in that episode while watching it, but the next day I was subconsciously aping his behavior!


I really don't see why it is even necessary to conduct any research to prove the obvious.  OF COURSE KIDS PLAYING VIOLENT VIDEO GAMES DEVELOP VIOLENT INSTINCTS!

HSW3K
HSW3K

Wow, that correlation seems pretty cut-and-dry to me. It's obvious that violent video games cause kids to be more aggressive. Unless of course  it works the other way around and aggressive kids are more likely to take an interest in violent video games, but that would just be ridiculous.


Come on. That headline is way too confident for an article that freely admits there isn't enough evidence to confirm a link between video games and long-term increases in aggression. There are as many studies that failed to find a link as there are studies asserting that there is one. The article itself is pretty balanced, so why tell a lie in the headline?

Kasirith
Kasirith

Just because something is "A well established test" doesnt mean it's actually useful or correct. It was a "Well established test" to throw suspected witches into lakes with weights on their feet and if they floated they were a witch.



The other commenter posted an expert reaction, which I agree with. This study is flawed, and your title is pure propaganda. Especially since you have to backpedal at the end of your report, after already dealing the damage with the misleading headline. Don't present your theories as fact.

HSW3K
HSW3K

@ERBear  That's certainly one way to avoid taking responsibility for your own behaviour.


I kind of like it as an excuse, though. Next time I feel like sitting around in a dressing gown all day watching TV, I'll just tell myself it's because of that one time I watched The Big Lebowski and blame it on the Coen brothers.

ERBear
ERBear

@HSW3K @ERBearYou should definitely do that.  They have a much bigger effect on you than you are willing to admit.  Illusion about how much control one has on himself is not always realistic.


Ever heard of the psychological experiment where subjects wake up from hypnosis carrying out  sublime instructions while trying to rationalize it?