Horoscope Hang-Up: Earth Rotation Changes Zodiac Signs

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If you’re the type of person who relies on mysterious-sounding locations of stars to determine your personality and outcome in life, get ready to be shocked.

The field of astrology, which is concerned with horoscopes and the like, felt a major disruption from astronomers, who are concerned with actual stars and planets. The astronomers from the Minnesota Planetarium Society found that because of the moon’s gravitational pull on Earth, the alignment of the stars was pushed by about a month.

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“When [astrologers] say that the sun is in Pisces, it’s really not in Pisces,” noted Parke Kunkle, a member of the group’s board. Your astrological sign is determined by the position of the sun on the day you were born, so that means everything you thought you knew about your horoscope is wrong.

It turns out that astrology has had issues from its inception. (Aside from the fact that it tries to link personality traits with positions of the stars.) Ancient Babylonians had 13 constellations, but wanted only 12, so threw out Ophuchicus, the snake holder. Libra didn’t even enter the picture until the era of Julius Caesar.

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According to the Minnesota Planetarium Society, here is where the real signs of the Zodiac should fall. Get ready for your world to change forever.

Capricorn: Jan. 20-Feb. 16.
Aquarius:
Feb. 16-March 11.
Pisces:
March 11-April 18.
Aries:
April 18-May 13.
Taurus:
May 13-June 21.
Gemini:
June 21-July 20.
Cancer:
July 20-Aug. 10.
Leo:
Aug. 10-Sept. 16.
Virgo: Sept. 16-Oct. 30.
Libra:
Oct. 30-Nov. 23.
Scorpio: Nov. 23-29.
Ophiuchus:
Nov. 29-Dec. 17.  (Yep, this one is new — read all about the Ophiuchus way of life here)
Sagittarius: Dec. 17-Jan. 20.

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78 comments
JoshuaRavenCroftHuss
JoshuaRavenCroftHuss

It's accurate to the tee. Did some research. So it is accurate. And If a person really thinks about the traits; of each zodiac. Then really think about it. 

JonaMarizValloSy
JonaMarizValloSy

So people born in say... October 30 will both be Virgos and Libras???

SanK
SanK

The only thing that is true and always has been taught, is that there are 13 lunar months (4 week periods) 52 weeks divided by 4 = 13 months. Another shift is the earth going out of alignment due to a mega earthquake a few years ago. I know in time this will be the new way of doing things, just like the way they have changed the bible and the laws to suit themselves over the years. I wonder if any previous law should be contested, if a new law has evolved because that means it must not have been law, if it can be changed.

Another point would be that those 13 months are Earth months and not the months of the other planets so how can one predict the Sun in Saturn for instance? Nothing gels with this at all. Not only that, everybody has no idea what is going on in our solar system, probably not even the ones who keep secrets from us or have the equipment to do so. Believing the words of others astounds me. Even if it is right for them does not make it right for everyone else.

SanK
SanK

It seems the only ones who were ever right, were the ones who never believed in this crap in the first place, all the rest have been floating on the stars in their heads.

SanK
SanK

Oh! here is another observation, does this mean that the actual star signs meanings have changed also, for example your traits remain the same as the star sign you were but the actual star sign itself, changes its personality traits? Because if a star sign can all of a sudden change a date, you can not tell people that their personality traits have changed at all. In fact i would assume that the day and time you were born would determine your personality traits and not some label as a name of an astrological sign. I for one can't see how all these people think they have authority to make up things. Laws, Signs, Rules, How things should be done or how you should live, How to drive etc. Who do they think they are? Gods or something? You might be able to change a date range and name to suit yourselves but you will  never change how a person perceives things, unless you brainwash them, which seems to be the normal thing to do. Nothing is real, it is all garbage. We all die and people still take advantage of other by enforcement and extortion.


This is just another one of those extortion tactics. I am sure people will be brainwashed to lap up the new nonsense though and pay for new books and magazines to get the new sign. Oh! those poor people who had tattoos of their original star sign embedded in their skin, now they have issues and will need to get this fixed, oops! Must be the reason for all those reality crap shows of getting inked or finding a partner so you can get screwed by the pathetic system. 



SanK
SanK

Another thing, all of a sudden, your partner may not compliment you anymore because their star sign has changed. This could be the reason there are so many divorces but i would believe it to be more like, manipulators of the divorce industry, I.E. Corrupt family court and child support a government designed way of extortion, being the absolute reason. 


Apparently we are now in the age of Aquarius, a deceptive sign of many faces that causes a lot of ups and downs, has this also changed. In other words nothing we have ever been told is truth and never has been, which makes sense, so why should we believe this hocus pocus now?

SanK
SanK

I am wondering If the sign you were born under is still your sign? Or whether you have changed to an new sign because of an era? Or if you are born into a certain time frame (could have been 4 years ago) you will be in the new modern version; and this will be your new star sign? As well, i have also noticed that star signs also have new planets associated with them, for example, Taurus and Libra were born under Venus. Capricorn under Saturn. I also wonder if this affects your Chinese sign, your element etc. 


To some degree i always saw my traits as a Taurian and most others saw this as well, yet now i should have the traits of  Aries Fairy's. That is a significant difference in attitude, which i can not see me change anytime soon. In fact i once believed this nonsense because of the HOPE brainwashing - and then after going through such agony from manipulator's, I have become stubborn again and(a trait of a Taurian) - now refuse to believe in any of this hocus pocus. Just like the bible and all the religions having so many different views or gods or whatever they are called. All Satan in my view. Just like the scam of political policies and man made self serving laws that destroy lives instead of getting justice. (Illegal and Injustice system).People thinking they own the planet and our bodies.


I guess the Astrological industry is dying and needs an new avenue to capitalise?


I also wonder if this is just an new scam as everything on this prison planet is?

cullah
cullah

Anyone who says astrology has nothing to do with constellations does not know what they are talking about. The very start of astrology was about observing the planets as they moved through the constellations in the sky. Tropical astrologers need to study the history of astrology before writing off the 13 astronomical constellations because astrology has nothing to do earth the weather and everything up do with the sky. How an ancient science got to this level of stupidity that is tropical astrology I'll never know. How could science ever support it. Well it couldn't. In this world people have trouble believing in things they can't see. I believe in astrology I can see like the planets passing through constellations in the sky, where is the physical proof of western astrology? Aries does not begin on 21st March . Look through a telescope and you'll see the sun is in the constellation of pieces and does not go into Aries until 18 April. If people want to continue to believe in newspaper astrology it's up to them but they cannot knock sidereal astrology for the true science that it is. Study it a bit before making such a blanket decision as to write off as nonsense. Furthermore astrology is much more than your sun sign, which people call 'star sign'. Astrology is the study of all the planets including the moon and ascendant. If someone can judge it as 3 lines in a newspaper column its like judging a book by the cover.

cullah
cullah

Sharooz these are the dates of the signs. Just look at when your birthday is:

Capricorn: Jan. 20-Feb. 16.

Aquarius: Feb. 16-March 11.

Pisces: March 11-April 18.

Aries: April 18-May 13.

Taurus: May 13-June 21.

Gemini: June 21-July 20.

Cancer: July 20-Aug. 10.

Leo: Aug. 10-Sept. 16.

Virgo: Sept. 16-Oct. 30.

Libra: Oct. 30-Nov. 23.

Scorpio: Nov. 23-29.

Ophiuchus: Nov. 29-Dec. 17. (Yep, this one is new — read all about the Ophiuchus way of life here)

Sagittarius: Dec. 17-Jan. 20.

shahrooz
shahrooz

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shahrooz
shahrooz

Hello i am shahrooz from pakistan..
i have to know that can i change my horoscope sign ???

cullah
cullah

Shahrooz

Here are the dates of the signs. Look at your birthday and that is your sign

Capricorn: Jan. 20-Feb. 16.

Aquarius: Feb. 16-March 11.

Pisces: March 11-April 18.

Aries: April 18-May 13.

Taurus: May 13-June 21.

Gemini: June 21-July 20.

Cancer: July 20-Aug. 10.

Leo: Aug. 10-Sept. 16.

Virgo: Sept. 16-Oct. 30.

Libra: Oct. 30-Nov. 23.

Scorpio: Nov. 23-29.

Ophiuchus: Nov. 29-Dec. 17. (Yep, this one is new — read all about the Ophiuchus way of life here)

Sagittarius: Dec. 17-Jan. 20.

cullah
cullah

The 13th zodiac is the true zodiac, astrology is based on the stars, not the seasons.  Astrology began by observing the stars, the word 'astra' is the latin word for STAR. Astrology is NOT the study of the seasons, if you want to study the seasons and the weather try Meteorology.  Tropical astrology  is bull, and people who knock sidereal astrology are afraid of the unknown and don't want to change what they were brainwashed to believe all their lives. The seasons are different all over the globe, in the southern hemisphere spring begins in October, and autumn begins in April, so does that mean that people born on 21st March are Libra and those born on 23rd October are aries? What rubbish. Its time we recognised astrology for what it was, a science, before they ruined it and turned it into a joke, relegated to the funny pages of magazines and newspapers. It was once a science recognised by astronomers and now it has broken so far away from that with made up dates that scientists and astronomers disown it. People are able to bash sidereal astrology on this site, but its high time that someone stood up for sidereal astrology, the real scientific astrology.

ShowrovSk
ShowrovSk

How can i be a leo and a virgo the same time ( 16th sep ) this is nothing but stupidity. fake -_- I will still follow my actual horoscope -_- BLEH :P 

AmberMalynEmmons
AmberMalynEmmons

This is so messed up. What the hell? We shouldn't have to change what we are. And what about our birthstones? Won't they have to change since they go along with the signs? I am a Gemini. And now they expect me to be a Taurus? Screw them. I'm staying what I grew up as.

KCToshannaBrown
KCToshannaBrown

Ok. From what I understand, if the signs are changing because of the gravitational pull...doesn't that just affect today? That doesn't affect where everything was when I was born, right?

john6907
john6907

People keep proving astrology doesn't work with proofs that have no validity.  


Carl Sagan dismissed astrology with arguments that proved he hadn't researched it at all.  Very unscientific.  You can't divide people into 12 categories, he stated, the planets are too far away for their gravity to have any effect on people, people thought parts of a serial killer's chart would apply to them, and other arguments that to anyone who is familiar with astrology would consider ridiculous.


It's called confirmation bias.  Sagan made up his mind astrology couldn't possibly be true then set out to prove it with common sense.  I lost a lot of respect for him as a scientist after reading about his "proofs".

BevinPeters
BevinPeters

There is one common misconception that many of you are sharing right now, and that is that horoscopes have any place in real astrology.  Your sign is determined when you are born.  That is your zodiac sun sign.  Your horoscope is based on more personal information that what your sun sign is.  We're talking, minutes, hours, day, month, year, and location, just for your actual sun sign, not to mention all other aspects of your birth chart.  If you fancy topical astrology, enjoy the fantasy that you will live in, as astrology is a pseudo-science, that correlates personality traits to certain signs, and different combinations of signs.  Many of those correlations are close to accurate, but even if your birth time is listed as 10 minutes off, then that accuracy goes right out the window. Basically, if you really want to know your astrological information, gather your birth information and have someone make a birth chart for you.  Then, worry about if it lines up with what astronomers say, as they are the one's that actually pay attention to where the stars are in our sky.

schmorgis
schmorgis

this article is complete b.s

if you knew ANYTHING about astrology before bashing it you would know that it's based off of SEASONS not off CONSTELLATIONS, which also rules out any possibility of there being a 13th zodiac sign.

astrology has always had twelve seasons, and they just chose certain constellations to name them after, not vice versa. I strongly recommend everybody find out their natal chart.

BevinPeters
BevinPeters

@schmorgis Apparently you haven't done your homework on astrology (the breakdown of the word means the study of the sky), so if I were you, I would stop being a keyboard warrior for something you know nothing about. Astrology has always been based off of constellations, the seasonal addition is from the late 19th century.  The actual positions of the constellations has been shifting since astrology's inception, and any real practitioner would know that already.  Then again, real practitioners don't practice fortune telling by the stars, either.

VasilisKanatas
VasilisKanatas

There are 13 Zodiac Signs on the Sun's path in the sky. The dates that the Sun transits to them have changed. This is a scientific fact. Please look here for the Sun's transit dates in the year 2015: www.astrology13.com (left column: Tables 1930-2020)

As a consequence to this change, almost everyone's Zodiac Sign has changed. 

PandoraKonzel
PandoraKonzel

do we still keep our birthstones or do they change too? 

heyits__katie
heyits__katie

Birthstones have nothing to do with astrology.

SkyMcCulley
SkyMcCulley

My birthday is November 23, so which one am I? Libra or Scorpio! See it is fake.

AliyaSayss
AliyaSayss

to everyone freaking out, tell me how one person can be 2 zodiac signs?

NoahWatkinson
NoahWatkinson

This is fake they can't renew the signs, they date back to Ancient Greek times...

PunkJesus
PunkJesus

@NoahWatkinson Actually it is. 2,000 years ago, the zodiacs were like we believe right now. 2,000 years later (where we are now), our constellations have changed due to our (The Earth)'s movement through the universe. So technically this is correct. In 2,000 more years, it will change again.

BrendaJDemery
BrendaJDemery

Oh my lol I'm a sag Hahanah! And my lover is a Gemini lol

KeiraSommer
KeiraSommer

ohhhhhh heeeelllll naaaahhh im no pisces 

CalebHobby
CalebHobby

One things for sure; I'm not being an aries..

RoniPeretz
RoniPeretz

I am still a Leo though, nothing changed,

16 August :)

TerrySackett
TerrySackett

I can keep being an archer.  That's good.  I like archery, and my bows and arrows were expensive!

Mr.Kortz
Mr.Kortz

The zodiac signs are determined by the static segment of the sky that the sun is in at the time of birth.  That being, 6 divisions from north to south, from the tropic of cancer to the tropic of capricorn, that change from winter/spring to summer/fall. They have not now, nor have ever, had any bearing on actual constellations. They only bear names of certain constellations due to each constellations' proximity to the segment of the sky it may appear in.

Furthermore, we have 12 signs and will always only have 12 signs, corresponding to 12 sky segments, because they are based on the number of lunar cycles in an average year and are marked by the solstices and equinoxes.

The position of the sun in the sky is the one and only determining factor of what your sun and rising signs are.  Your sun sign is determined by the north-south position of the sun (time of year), and the rising sign, by eat-west position of the sun (time of day).

DrewBennis
DrewBennis

The stars are still there, so why would it make any difference? I don't want to sound rude but I don't know what you are getting at.

PhoebeTan
PhoebeTan

@jackalsnight @Mr.Kortz 12.4, so it is a dilemma if we should follow the rule where we choose the closer number which is 12, or if we round up since you cant have parts of something making it 13


VanessaTrupiano
VanessaTrupiano

@TerrySackett Just because you were born at night doesn't mean the sun ceased to exist. It just means the sun is in a different position of the world. The statement says "the position of the sun in the sky..." so figure out where the sun is at that moment around the world.