PETA Takes Heat over Claims it Killed 90% of Animals Dropped off at Virginia Shelter

Critics are slamming the organization for hypocrisy after a Virginia state report indicated a high rate of euthanasia at their shelter.

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Pamela Anderson with her dogs at at PETA event in New Orleans, Louisiana on August 2, 2010. The actress has been a long-time supporter of the animal rights organization.

Correction appended June 18, 2014.

Could it be possible that People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) isn’t as animal-friendly as it claims?  The organization reportedly had to destroy almost 90% of all the animals dropped off at its headquarters in Norfolk, Va., in 2012, according to the Daily Mail.

Critics are slamming PETA for hypocrisy, dubbing the shelter a “slaughterhouse,” the website LiveScience reported.

According to published records from the Virginia Department for Agriculture and Consumer Services,the organization euthanized 1,675 of the 1,877 animals in its care in 2012, including 602 dogs and 1,045 cats.  In the last 11 years, PETA has euthanized 29,426 dogs, cats, rabbits and other domestic animals, the Huffington Post pointed out.

“It seems PETA is more dedicated to publicity stunts than to keeping the animals in its own care alive,” Justin Wilson, a senior research analyst at the nonprofit Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF), told the Daily Mail.

(MORE: PETA Wants Queen Elizabeth to Cut Ties with Pigeon Racing)

The CCF, which appears to be leading the charge on Shelter-gate, gets its support from restaurants and food companies and has butted heads with PETA before, LiveScience noted. And PETA spokeswoman Jane Dollinger said in a statement that the allegations are financially motivated, calling CCF an industry group whose “goal is to damage PETA by misrepresenting the situation,” according to LiveScience. The group maintains that while many animals did have to be euthanized, the 90% figure was higher than PETA’s internal numbers.

PETA told the Daily Mail that the animals they take in at the center are usually difficult to find homes for and would presumably end up being euthanized anyway: “Most of the animals we take in are society’s rejects: aggressive, on death’s door or somehow unadoptable,” Dollinger noted.

Each year, between 3 million and 4 million dogs and cats are euthanized in the U.S. That number is significantly lower than the 12 million to 20 million pets euthanized in American shelters during the 1970s, according to the Humane Society of the United States.

MORE: Why PETA Is Meat’s Best Friend

Correction: The original version of this story misstated the full name of PETA. It is People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. 

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ShelleyParsons
ShelleyParsons

I'd like to know what all these outraged people on here are doing to help animals?  I get so sick of hearing everybody bitching about how awful PETA and other organizations are, but they never tell us what THEY'RE actually doing on the front lines.  I know people who work in rescue in my area and trust me, they don't want to euthanize animals any more than PETA does.  Unfortunately, STUPID, IGNORANT HUMAN BEINGS are the ones who have created this problem in the first place.  Maybe you should take some time to go work and volunteer in some of these places, then you'll see the tragic, horrible circumstances they have to deal with, again because NOBODY ELSE seems to be doing anything.  I worked briefly at a vet clinic here, and the shelter had an agreement with all the vet clinics that any animals that they didn't have room for (or were too sick to help) were sent to the clinic whose turn it was that month to be euthanized.  I left for lunch one day to the sound of a litter of healthy kittens.  When I returned, their lives had ended.  I GUESS MAYBE THAT'S WHY SO MANY SHELTERS HAVE SUCH A LOW KILL RATE!  As has been said over and over, no one wants to talk about that issue.


I'm just sick to death of hearing the complaining.  DON'T COMPLAIN UNLESS YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING BETTER!

CoolHand
CoolHand

@ShelleyParsons  - I rescued two dogs. in fact, all my dogs have been rescues (6 total). That's probably a lot more than you have ever done, Ms. I WRITE IN CAPS BECAUSE I KNOW BETTER...



BarleySinger
BarleySinger

@ShelleyParsons

There are "others" who do thing very differently than PETA. The trouble is that most of the vets and those who work at animal shelters don;t know what PETA really does. They think they re kind and compassionate people who want to place every animal that they can. This is simply not the truth.

The fact is that PETA euthanizes animals with no attempt at all to place them at all. Not every PETA location is the same, but too many of their people are essentially trained to kill the animals that they get as rapidly as possible (often in the same van they pick them up in).

Have some proof

http://www.whypetaeuthanizes.org/why/

(this one has dead animal photos)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nathan-j-winograd/peta-kills-puppies-kittens_b_2979220.html

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/03/petas-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-history-of-killing-animals/254130/

http://www.petakillsanimals.com/proof-peta-kills/

If this idea confuses you, that is understandable. People tend to view PETA as very radical and for animal rights of every kind. After all they throw blood and red paint on people wearing fur and leather.  Their founder Ingrid Newkirk puts out flyers that say things like "A rat is a pig is a dog is a boy", and puts material into the hands of kids that says their parents are murders for eating eggs and drinking milk.

The founder of PEA (Ingrid Newkirk) has directly said that PETA does not believe in "animal rights" of any sort - including the right to be alive. She has also made it quite plain in interviews that she believes that life is a terrible thing, that animals "want to die" and that killing them is a wonderful "gift" (shudder). She also blieves that it is imporrible for humans to have good relationships with animals that they "keep". To here every pet and farm animal is a "slave" and they are "better off dead" than living as"slaves".

PETA does raise a whole lot of cash every year for Newkirk, but it doesn't seem to be spent on HELPING the animals, most of which are just killed with no effort to get them into homes where they are wanted. They also do not spend money on neutering animals, in order to keep the quantity of unwanted (and mistreated) pets from being so high, and keep so many dogs and cats from wandering around as abandoned ferals.

Newkirk thinks that the species of animals that humans have domesticated (changed drastically, to the point they are now dependent on us) are far better off FREE (and feral) or dead, than in any person's home.

She is a nut job.

More links for you :

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nathan-j-winograd/a-dog-is-a-boy-except-whe_b_4072175.html

http://www.whypetaeuthanizes.org/maya/  (PETA people try and coax dog away to steal and kill it)

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/peta-steals-va-family-dog-kills-dad-article-1.2010408

Newkirk also supports the idea of  "Breed Specific Legislation" (BSL) which is where every member of a certain breed is slaughtered. This sort of this is the result of the "politics of fear" and the fact that from time to time it becomes a fad for certain types of very bad people, to get a dog of a certain breed, and use cruelty to torment the animal into being vicious. Pit bulls & Rottweilers have received a lot of bad press because of who trained them.  However when they are NOT tormented they are very gentle animals. The dog on the old "our gang" comedies was a pit bull.

AlissaSpringfield
AlissaSpringfield

@ShelleyParsons No. I still don't like PETA because instead of killing most of the animals they get in Even puppies and kittens who will be adopted so quickly. They should stop wasting thousands of dollars on advertisements and stunts and start saving that money on improving themselves and maybe building another nice comfortable shelter to hold some of these animals instead of just doing the easy thing and just killing them and not having to worry about them after. I have volunteered at a no kill shelter and they were treated in the best way possible. All the dogs got time outside and all the cats got time to play outside their cages. They have so many supporters and donations they could gather enough money to make a great shelter for their animals. But they are too busy wasting money of euthanizing  animals and doing stupid stunts. They don't even give them a chance to be adopted. They could be doing so much but they are just taking the LAZY way out and just killing basicly all the animals they get. I also know that they don't want any domestic animals at all I am almost positive that is the reason why they kill them because they don't want them to be adopted in the first place. They say it right on their website if you don't believe me.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              "we believe that it would have been in the animals’ best interests if the institution of “pet keeping”—i.e., breeding animals to be kept and regarded as “pets”—never existed."          



 "This selfish desire to possess animals and receive love from them causes immeasurable suffering."

FabioMontemezzo
FabioMontemezzo

Peta reportedly killed 96% of the animals they received, 90% in the first 24 hours of receiving them. How is anyone supposed to adopt an animal if they have no chance of even seeing it?

Furthermore, virginia state department of agriculture has confirmed that they don't have the necessary facilities to hold more than a few animals at a tine but seem very well organized with regards to killing them and disposing of the bodies.

Peta has been revealed as either completely insane or more likely a scam orgabization that has realized it is easy to scam people out of their money if they claim it is done for the "good" of these poor animals.

Peta racks in $35 million a year from donations and as a non profit pays no taxes. They take in (in2012) 1800 animals and euthanize 1600+. At an average cost of $500 per animal, peta could keep indefinitely 40 times the number of animals they receive but that would chip into their profits.

StevenCaldwell1
StevenCaldwell1

I am so ad the light is being shown on this group! All they want is free government handouts while there CEO lives life to the fullest , I read somewhere the ceo's pay is over 2.5 mil a year and no telling what else she gets while under non for profit tax statues!!!

TheChickpea
TheChickpea

I believe in animal rights, but not in PETA. PETA has to be stopped. They are entitled death obsessed wacked out hippy-losers. A homeless man who lives near my school had his dog taken away, and killed by PETA people. Now they've done it again, to a little girl. They routinely take animals from people the feel "don't deserve them." They kill thousands of animals every year including healthy easy to adopt puppies. They believe that animals have the right not to live in cages, but not the right to live.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nathan-j-winograd/peta-kills-puppies-kittens_b_2979220.html
http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/04/09/peta-takes-heat-over-claims-it-killed-90-of-animals-dropped-off-at-virginia-shelter/
https://www.petakillsanimals.com/

in their own words http://www.peta.org/blog/euthanize/
http://www.peta.org/about-peta/why-peta/pets/

PattiCannon
PattiCannon

If you say that 90% is higher than what your paperwork shows, prove it.  I believe what has been stated by the CCF is very much the truth.  Just because you are a non profit doesn't give you the right to do as you have been doing and no doubt will continue doing unless something is done.  You unlawfully had a Chihuahua taken from the porch of a house and you killed this dog.  You don't want to make any comments because you know what was done was wrong.


kevwilliamsg16
kevwilliamsg16

I am vegetarian because I like animals and feel they should not be exploited or killed for food. 

I do not like PETA they are a bunch of nuts.  These nuts picketed at a Guide dogs for the blind!  These dogs are helping make people independent and the dogs are treated much better than anywhere else they would end up, especially one of PETA shelters. PETA would prefer a dog to be killed in their shelter than have a good life helping someone (being exploited from their POV!  I am sure of this literally.


(The only good they did is to take those video in ranches of abuse).


They see it this way "Killing humanly is ok but exploiting and hurting is not.  So they just kill them."   Makes sense?   There are "no kill" shelters one very good on called Rocket Dogs rescue in San Francisco.

It is true that there are much less animals killed in shelters that it used to be.  I do not give that credit to PETA.   It is other organizations that are educating people to fix their pets like Rocket Dogs.  PETA just collects and kills pets.

PETA  could do it but it would be to much trouble for them and killing dogs is much cheaper. 

If you need a pet go to a no kill shelter.

Bigrob
Bigrob

I have a friend that use to do work for Peta. Until she found out what was really going on. She said that higher up in Peta they want to kill all animal's. They want to end them all. That goes for pet's and farm animals and any animal used for food or stuff that is taken from an animal to make things. They want to kill them all off so they do not exist anymore. So what happened to this.. Ohhhh we care about animal's thing.. BS.. Of course Peta says that it's all a lie and that it's not true but yet when proof pop's up that says they are telling a lie they make up BS saying well we needed to do it.. But first they said they where not killing them. They change their stories more time's a day then people change their clothes. Oh and did I mention that once she was caught telling people their lawyer's sent her a letter and called her and said that if she tell's anyone else what she heard and what she know's they will sue her and take her for everything she has. So they pretty much told her that if she tell's anyone else about their secret's and their hidden agenda's they have going on they would sue her... She didn't listen and told me everything about what goes on and what's worse is that they say they are non profit but the truth is that she said people in there where taking bribe's and other nasty stuff. So when she told me everything that was going on inside Peta I lost all respect for them.. Peta is nothing more then a group of monster's that kill million's of animal's that could find home's and they have plan's for every other pet out their in the world and farm animal also. She asked one of the people once what Peta would do if all the farm animal's and pet's in the world where released to Peta to care for... When she was told they would all be put down so they can not be breed anymore nor used anymore she said she felt like someone just smashed her heart into tiny pieces.. And I do not blame her. To hell with Peta and you sneaky lairs and there is a special place in hell for you liar's thieves and monster's and killer's of innocent creatures!... May you burn for ever in the lakes of fire! you hypocrites!

MarygayChaples
MarygayChaples

PETA, is for profit, it is a NON PROFIT and pay NO TAXES, yet they kill animals, are terrorist and abuse the court system. They advertise for donations and mislead people that they are SAVING ANIMALS when their CEO in her made for TV  film states that no animal should be captive or eaten if they can not run free then if extinction is the only outcome so be it. They have attack farmers, private owners and have managed to influence USDA which they use to take animals,close down businesses and destroy lprivate businesses. NO ONE IS SAFE


vickmichele
vickmichele

Liberal ghouls. They're like the people who ran the gas chambers in Poland. Giving out flowers and playing soft music before they dropped the zyclone b pellets in.

wfcoaker
wfcoaker

@vickmichele Liberal? What does this have to do with Liberal? PETA is an evil, lying, exploitative scam organization that makes its profit creating a false and offensive of innocent workers so they can exploit it for profit. No liberal is going to support the unjust exploitation of innocent workers. Supporting the rights of working people against exploitation by corporations is a basic principle of liberalism. Anyone who supports PETA is not a liberal by definition.

BarleySinger
BarleySinger

@wfcoaker @vickmichele not "liberal" just nutty. "Liberal" is supposed to mean 'without holding back' (as in 'to give liberally').

However in politics labels are misused (for deception). The "dictionary" definitions of those terms are often very different from the platforms of political parties that use the terms as a 'self descriptor'.

Being conservative is supposed to mean " Moderate or cautious".  How is it 'cautious' to let huge corporations permanently poison the water table in the driest states in the USA? How is it 'cautious' to let a big company like BP put oil wells in undersea locations KNOWN to be too dangerous to drill in, and then NOT make them pay for it when they poison a big hunk of the Atlantic ocean, and then make the tax payers pay for the mess BP made?  Well it isn't cautious. The parties who use the term try and get into office by (in public) aligning themselves with old and inflexible religious ideas.


Then we have "Liberal".  In Australia they have a "Liberal Party" that is almost a perfect duplicate of "Big Money Republicans" in the USA.

"Liberal" (by the dictionary) means : "Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry. Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded."

However the Aussie Liberal Party is Authoritarian, bigoted, closed to new ideas, hateful toward social change, intolerant of new ideas, etc. They are everything the definition is not (yet they are the "Liberal Party")

Many people throw around political labels (right, left, conservative, liberal, socialist, communist, etc ) as insults, and most of the time they have never looked up the definition of that term once.

For instance, actual communism has no money and no government at all. Everyone just magically cooperates and nobody is EVER lazy (forcing other people to do everything for them).  The only place this works is in small low-tech villages where people all have to cooperate in order to survive. Yet in 'supposed' communist nations what you really have is a totalitarian oligarchy or totalitarian  dictatorship.

Once again, the political labels do not match what they meaning is supposed to be. It's like the book "1984" where they have  "double think"; a form of language where everything has a new definition to make it more palatable (and to confuse people). FREEDOM=SLAVERY, THE TRUTH=A LIE, etc

The constant use of political double speak and the way people often toss terms around without defining them at all, makes their statements into meaningless insults.

kellienurse
kellienurse

that's just bs because they should not of had to euthanize that many of their animals, that many weren't unadoptable.

iisnotamused
iisnotamused

PETA have not doing anything good regards about animals and they attempt to blame on other communities. They recently try to blame children video games like mario and pokemon as they see these games as a way of "abusing animals."

PETA is basically a huge hungry wolf covered with multiple sheep skin, I am still wondering why do people still trust them.

quenselenn
quenselenn

she is way to ugly and her dogs look so cuter then she is hahaha


cheryldezego
cheryldezego

  • THE REASON FOR THIS IS BECAUSE THEY OFFER TO PUT YOUR ELDERLY OR TERMINAL PET DOWN FOR A DONATION WHERE OTHER VETS CHARGE A HUGH FEE. MY BEST FRIEND HAD HER LITTLE GUY FOR 18 YEARS AND HE STARTED HAVING SEIZURES AND SHE JUST BACK TO BACK 2 MONTHS AFTER UNEMPLOYED FOR 10 MONTHS. I CALLED SEVERAL PLACES TRYING TO GET HELP AND WHEN I CALLED PETA THEY TOLD US TO BRING HIM RIGHT OVER. THEY WERE WONDERFUL WE STAYED THE WHOLE TIME AND WHEN MY FRIEND HAD SAID HER GOODBYES THEY GAVE HIM A LITTLE MEDICINE IN LEG AND IN LESS THEN MINUTE HE WAS AT PEACE. THIS WAS THE MOST HUMANE THING THAT COULD HAVE BEEN DONE. THEY ARE THE ANSWER TO A PAINFUL SITUATION. I HAVE NEVER BEEN A FAN OF PETA BECAUSE I LISTENED TO ALL THE HYPE IN MEDIA BUT AFTER ACTUALLY DEALING WITH THEM. THEY ARE A BLESSING TO ANIMALS AND PEOPLE WHO LOVE THEM. CALL A VET SEE WHAT THEY WANT TO CHARGE TO NEUTER YOUR PET. PETA DOES FOR FREE. IT BREAKS MY HEART WHEN I SEE ANIMALS ABANDON TO STARVE. THERE ARE ALOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS ECONOMY STRUGGLING TO MAKE ENDS MEET. THEY CANT AFFORD BIG PET BILLS AND PETA OFFERS EXAMS AND SHOTS AND FLEA TREATMENT FOR FREE. IF YOU LOOSE YOUR JOB OR YOU SUPPOSE TO GIVE AWAY YOUR PET. IF HE IS SLOWLY AND PAINFULLY DYING DO YOU SMOTHER HIM WITH A PILLOW BECAUSE NO MONEY FOR VET BILL. PETA GETS A BAD RAP AND TO BE HONEST I MADE JOKES AND CRITICIZED THEM TOO UNTIL I NEEDED THEM. i WILL NEVER FORGET THE COMPASSION THEY SHOWED MY FRIEND OVER HER PET. i SEND MONEY EACH MONTH TO DIFFERENT CHARITIES AND FROM NOW ON THEY MAKE MY LIST. CHERYL DEZEGO

motleydragon
motleydragon

@cheryldezego The problem with PeTA is that they *market* themselves as being concerned about animal welfare, but in actual fact they do NOTHING to try and help the animals given into their care. They do NO outreach. They have NO adoption programs in place, no adoption hours posted, no visitation, and yet they call themselves an 'animal shelter'. That is FRAUD, Cheryl. They are taking your money, and that of other people, and telling you they are using it to 'help animals, but in fact they are using it to continue killing animals and to finance their outrageous and offensive ad campaigns aimed at children like the lovely little pamphlet "Your Mommy KILLS ANIMALS!" and other such propaganda to further their end goal, which is not helping animals but removing them from human contact entirely. You go right on funding these murderers because they helped your friend, but don't pride yourself on doing something good when you do so. You are helping to fund fraud and cruelty.


motleydragon
motleydragon

@cheryldezego Yeah, they are real GOOD at KILLING animals, Not surprised your friend found 'help' for her animal there. As for HELPING animals, though... errr, not so much. Take a look at where your donation money is going. Just because PeTA supposedly 'helped' your friend does not make them good guys. Hitler made the trains run on time too; does that excuse him? No. 

jenron
jenron

@cheryldezego - If that were the case, WHY were they convicted of 'littering' when they killed puppies and kittens they accepted from a shelter and a veterinarian, promising them they'd find those animals good homes, then dumped those dead puppies and kittens in a grocery store dumpster?  They murdered the perfectly adoptable animals before they ever got to the PeTA 'shelter'.  Look up "PeTA Ahoskie dumpster".  Read the second story that comes up.  Look at the images that come up.  And tell me how great PeTA is then.  They make me wanna puke up my corn flakes.

StevenCaldwell1
StevenCaldwell1

Utoh a PETA fan that receive money from them to say all this nice stuff in caps!!!

MichelleAdamsAntiHsusAntiPeta
MichelleAdamsAntiHsusAntiPeta

@cheryldezego PeTA kills animals simply because the can, and then expects people to love them for it.  Why would anyone take a sick, injured, or suffering animal to this Hellhole to be jabbed with a needle repeatedly in the name of ending it's supposed "misery"?  PeTA does not mind telling us that they DO NOT use a veterinarian to euthanize these animals because the State law in VA does not REQUIRE it.  So, why take an animal to an untrained, unlicensed person just to inflict more misery on it?  PeTA very proudly states that no animal has a "right to life".  So, why would they think any animal would have a right to be free from pain, suffering and PeTA's own callousness?  All these people are volunteer animal rights activists who are not trained in euthanasia and who don't know anything  about animals.  I pity any and all animals who have had their lives horribly ended by stupid people who care NOTHING for their animals simply because they are old or injured or sick and who believe the animals should suffer ONE MORE TIME. 

PattiCannon
PattiCannon

@cheryldezego You see one good deed and that makes them good.  I think not.  You need to do more research so you can face reality.  These people are sick and twisted.  Most shelters if you take a pet in to be put down they will ask for a donation, however, you don't have to give one.  Been there and done that.  

MartaWeller
MartaWeller

@cheryldezego I know of many rescue groups and no-kill shelters in my area that offer the same veterinarian assistance as PeTA does, but they don't steal dogs off people's front porches and kill them the same day, ignoring the state-mandatory five day stray hold.   They obey the laws. Maya's owners never got the chance to get her back.  And yes, it is all on video.  If one of these local groups sees an animal in exigent circumstances,they work within the law to have the animal surrendered,  PeTA has accepted animals from people who were given the impression they would be rehomed, only to find out they were killed in the back of a van and dumped behind a Piggly Wiggly market. Most  were eminently adoptable, and many were puppies and kittens. The PeTA employees were caught, but could only be charged with illegal dumping as the animals were willingly surrendered.


I would rather share my meager funds with local animal rescues, which make a concerted effort to find foster homes or permanent homes for the animals they take in or pull from the county shelter.  They keep them no matter how long it takes/  One of my current dogs had been at the local Humane Society for over a year.  I doubt PeTA would have kept her for that long.  Plus she is a bully mix and PeTA believes all bullies should be killed.

BarleySinger
BarleySinger

@cheryldezego they are an inexpensive way to kill an animal. They also steal peoples pets (right out of their yards and off their porches) and kill them.

FabioMontemezzo
FabioMontemezzo

Mussolini created infrastructure where there was none, particularly in southern italy. I've seen it when i was there and the local elderly population also confirmed it to me. The only problem is that he did it through authoritarian means and that was what people didnt like. What's better: a skilled dictator that aims at improving his country or an incompetent democracy that aims at improving its country?

FabioMontemezzo
FabioMontemezzo

Peta is the West Baptist Church of the animal shelters.

differentflags
differentflags

I would not help PETA in any way, shape pr form. They should not kill animals. Eugenia Renskoff

annamhv
annamhv

And this is why I dislike PETA

MerleDickey
MerleDickey

Easy solution , quit sending them money and send it to a local non kill shelter. Put them out of business. Ask how much the head of PETA makes in a year and then you'll see where alot of your money goes.

KevinWoolley
KevinWoolley

Not a fan of PETA they often use radical tactics, and prosecute people who don't deserve it.  Now that I read about this it sounds like they don't practice what they preach.......  I guess its all for the media hype and the recruitment of celebrities that drives this organization.  I wonder if they get some of the plays ion their playbook from the Scientologists?

CatManStan
CatManStan

It is a well known fact that PETA kills 97% of all the innocent cats & dogs that they so called ''Save''!

BeckyShilling
BeckyShilling

Really? Aggressive? Unadoptable? Like the sweet mama cat and litter of kittens you took from a vet clinic, telling them you'd find them homes, then killed them in parking lot in your death van?

FrancesRouse
FrancesRouse

Am I reading this correctly? Peta has one set of numbers in house and one set the report?       Is it possible that euthanasia numbers are actually higher? They lied in reporting to the state of Virginia.   What are they hiding?  

YeaIsaidit
YeaIsaidit

Yea nice logic michele, a not for profit company doing exactly what they criticize other people over. Just for the record, PETA purposely "harmed" these dogs by murdering them. Your logic was "nice" as well. Do as I say not as I do, and don't kill animals, unless it is done by those saying not to kill them. I truly hope you have not and will not produce since simple logic is lost on you!

YeaIsaidit
YeaIsaidit

But killing thousands upon thousands of dogs and cats that you are "saving" is okay? I think this is fraud of the highest order and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law! People giving money to treat animals ethically, only for them to be murdered? PETA=Michael Vick, but on a much larger scale.

micheleleann
micheleleann

@DavidWilliams1 Yes because purposely harming dogs, and training them to fight eachother to the death is exactly the same thing as having to put down dogs because you can't find them homes.  Nice logic!  Your photo indicates you've already reproduced, otherwise I would have asked you kindly not to.  Hate the thought of you passing that idiocy on...

HeavenlySkies
HeavenlySkies

I never donated to them but thought they were animal lovers like myself. The story that was posted with the images brought tears to my eyes. I now donate to the ASPCA. I suggest everyone else do the same and put your money to a group that actually wants to keep animals alive.

aphreal
aphreal

@VictoriaBrooks @HeavenlySkies No-kill shelters aren't actually no kill.  They just bring them to us at the actual animal shelter for us to do their dirty work.  There is a gross overpopulation and people don't want to be responsible pet owners.  Our work is heartbreaking but necessary, and we'll still get called murderers.  We REQUIRE that you spay or neuter your pet if you are taking an animal from us.  We do our part to fight overpopulation, still people don't listen, still people don't take the time to put effort into owning a pet.  

kinsey.l.k
kinsey.l.k

@HeavenlySkiesASPCA is no better than PETA.  You should read up on them as well.  Big non-profit organizations like this don't actually do anything for animals, they collect the money for marketing and salaries.  Donate to your local no kill animal shelter.

TheChickpea
TheChickpea

@aphreal @VictoriaBrooks @HeavenlySkies . I used to work at a No-kill shelter for dogs, (although we did settle several cats a squirrel and some ferrets. Of the 1800 dogs we took in my last year we placed all but 40 of them. We used a phone tree. Of that 40 only 31 were losses. Of the ones we lost 20 came to us with parvo, 5 were senior dogs, and the other 5 had illnesses we couldn't treat or identify. It may feel like trying to empty the ocean with a bucket, but killing isn't the answer. Even if a dog is sick and dying, it si better to do the best you can to improve their quality of life, than end that life. I do believe that people have the right to choose to end their lives to limit their suffering, but when you choose to "end the suffering of a helpless animal," he's not choosing, you are. Few people who have actually worked with strays and ferrals can help but be impressed with the lengths they do to stay alive. By their actions they are showing that they want the chance to live.

VictoriaBrooks
VictoriaBrooks

@HeavenlySkies - You might want to read up on the ASPCA.  Only 10% of what they bring in actually go to rescues and kill shelters.  ASPCA also fights lifesaving legislation such as Oreo's law.  You are better off donating to your local No-Kill shelters and rescues who will spend it on vetting and food instead of advertising.

SilverCloudCats
SilverCloudCats

@aphreal I'm going to call you a flat out liar on that one. I am the founder, director, and head cat slave at a NO KILL cat sanctuary. I have never and will never take one of our animals to a shelter to be put down. When they are suffering and cannot be treated, which our vet clinic and I must agree on, they are gently put to rest in my arms and surrounded by love. I personally know MANY other rescues and no kill shelters and they are all 100% the same on this. I don't know of a single one, out of the hundreds that I know, speak to, and work with, that takes their animals to a kill shelter to be put down. Instead, we take them FROM the kill shelters to keep them alive!