‘Gay-Free’ Alternative to Boy Scouts Launches

Trail Life USA aims to "counter the moral free fall of the nation"

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After years of discord around the issue of gay members in the Boy Scouts of America, a new organization called Trail Life USA has formed as a home for those who disagree with the recent decision to allow openly gay Scouts.

In a press release issued on Saturday, the group states that it was founded to “counter the ‘moral free fall’ of the nation, and raise a generation of faithful husbands, fathers, citizens and leaders.” It adds, “The genesis of the new group was the [Boy Scouts of America] leadership’s closely watched decision in May to change its membership policy and admit youth regardless of their sexual orientation or sexual preference.”

Over the weekend more than 1,200 people from 44 states met in Nashville, according to NBC News, to unveil the name and logo of the new group and celebrate the launch of the organization.

Though the group requires adult leaders to be nongay and Christian, Trail Life USA says it will be inclusive of boys without regard for religion, race, national origin or socioeconomic status, and will even “accept boys who are experiencing same-sex attractions or gender confusion.” Boys who are openly homosexual, who are not “biologically male” or “who wish to dress and act like girls” are not welcome.

Here’s Trail Life USA’s dramatic new promotional video:

[NBC News]

78 comments
tommix
tommix

They want to have their own camping organization? So what; let them enjoy it. As far as I know, we are guaranteed freedom of association in this country. If someone else wants to start a camping group for gay youth, you can support them if you want to. Or don't if you don't want to. I grew up in the Boy Scouts in the 70s. It was a great organization just the way it was. It was sponsored by a church. I made a lot of friends. We camped out in the woods, had great adult leaders and had a lot of fun. I hope the scouting experience stays the same for boys today.

StanleyJames
StanleyJames

Most ot gthe most vicious anti gay people aree the same religious types  -  southern baptists / evangelicals who in the past justified slavery as per the bible


Think of the horror show of closeted from parents gay kdis who are forced into this new bSA. They will live with all kinds of homophoibia, insults etc. and dare not say anything


More gay child suicides will result.  BTW typically these anti gays are the same people who claim to support life.

KaySun
KaySun

What happened to youth activities keeping personal things personal. Why do we need to know if people are hetrosexual or homosexual? Its inappropriate to bring up sexuality period. Focus on the youth activities and keep sex and sexuality out of it. I don't like the idea of sending my son on an unaccompanied camping trip with an organization that supports open gay youth policies. Sorry, I just don't think it is a good idea for youth. Adult venues are something different.  

markflickner
markflickner

Trail Life USA is only free from the pressures of groups that hate everyone that is not like minded.

We are open to ALL boys of ALL faiths, but the leadership will be teaching from a Christian world view.

Why do non-Catholics go to a Catholic School...  Its a good education.

BSA changed its stance on moral issues.  Many leaders in BSA, though troubled by the decision, respected the right of the organization to do so and left.  How does this reflect bigotry?  If anything the bigots are those who could not stand a group of people holding to a moral standard and held cooperate dollars over their head until they caved.

You will also note that the only ones saying anything about being anti-gay are the pro-homosexual groups.  Trail Life USA is not anti-anything, you will find no list in our membership policy saying who cannot join.  We are a pro-morality organization and have a set of standards that if you agree to your are welcome to join.  If you do not agree then their are other organizations you can be apart of.

The only anti-groups here are the ones lashing out at Trail Life USA for standing up for their beliefs.

Trail Life USA will accept no government funding and no donations with any strings attached.


May Gods blessing fall on all who may receive them.



fgoodwin
fgoodwin

Freedom of choice is a "good thing", right?  Unless it includes a choice the Left doesn't approve of.  The Left welcomes any and all opinions, as long as it matches their own.  I wish this group all the best.  

GaryWilson1
GaryWilson1

As well as being "Gay-Free", this new organization would also seem to be "Jew-Free", "Buddhist-Free", "Muslim-Free", "Hindu-Free", and "American Indian-Free" as well.  Baden-Powell is probably spinning in the ground at thought this new organization purporting to be vaguely related to the Scouting Movement.

But don't worry, B-P; it, like all of the other dozen BSA imitators over the past century, will be unheard of ten years from now.

ConnieSchwandt
ConnieSchwandt

OMG ... I've read many comments below and cannot believe this!  What is wrong with a truly Christian family sending their child to an organization with similar beliefs?  I couldn't find anything that said Trail Life was going to be teaching how to hate gay people.  No true Christian hates anyone, but rather loves everyone.  We ALL have faults and sin.  Christians may not believe a gay persons way of life is right, and they may pray for them to understand God's design, but there is no hatred!  I would just like my children exposed to an organization where it's not encouraged or accepted as absolutely fine, but rather taught in a TRUE manner with God in the center of it all.

ChristianPriest
ChristianPriest

Are they going to teach them other biblical morals, like selling your daughter into marriage, enslaving other humans, harboring racist attitudes, and murdering your sassy children and unfaithful spouse.

FrankDorka
FrankDorka

The thing that we all must remember is, the molestation of Boy Scouts occurred at the hands of men that not only claimed to be heterosexual, but believers in a god as well.

GaryWilson1
GaryWilson1

Nothing new with BSA imitators.  They never last.  

Trail Life isn't and cannot be part of the the World Scouting movement, and thus will be doomed to obscurity, irrelevance or  eventual failure, just like numerous other BSA imitators before, such as the American Boy Scouts, The Baden-Powell Scouts, or the Royal Rangers.

skyguynick
skyguynick

"... the group requires adult leaders to be nongay and Christian..."

They have some kind of medical test or electronic 'GAY-DAR' to weed out homosexuals and non-Christians I suppose?

JonGibson
JonGibson

Organized bigotry is becoming less popular as time and experience march on.

StanleyJames
StanleyJames

Even the mormons who sponsor probably the most scout troops are staying with the BSA -  why - Because the guy who should have stopped the murder of Matthew shepard, Russell Henderson, was a mormon and an eagle scout

As for the new group too bad they didnt call it the BSA also - bigot scouts of America   The key group opposed to gays in the scouts are the southern baptists / evangelists / some independent chriistian churches

Heirs to slavery per the bible, segregation and of course they have in many ways  captured control of the repub parrty and they see Obama as a nightmare come true a black president.

BTW how did the extreme right wingers gain control of the repub party.   BAsically, Nixons southern strategy tto  take the soucth from the bad dems -  dixiecrats to the repubs

HIs assistant in that endeavor was Roger Ailes - head of the repub spin machine - fox news  - anti everything that says "obama" on it



neilscott6
neilscott6

A few issues.  First of all "Trail Life" is a terrible name.  Seriously?  That's the best they could come up with.  They need some marketing help.  Secondly the headline is extremely misleading.  This group will NOT be "gay free". It will be a group with gay boys and young men that are scared and miserable.  There is a difference.

Ann_Coultergeist
Ann_Coultergeist

God help the closeted gay kid who's parents push him into THIS group!!

Oh, I forgot. God hates fags

Leftcoastrocky
Leftcoastrocky

Trail Life is an organization for sons of homophobes.

DeweySayenoff
DeweySayenoff

The Hitler Youth Corps had exactly the same goals...

Clarknt67
Clarknt67

Great idea! It's never too early to teach kids to dislike those who are different and imbue a sense of moral superiority over their fellow man.

omgshnicholas
omgshnicholas

@markflickner You cannot say they are anti-anything when in the article it clearly says "Boys who are openly homosexual, who are not “biologically male” or “who wish to dress and act like girls” are not welcome."

Their "beliefs" are uninclusive.

JeffreyJohnson
JeffreyJohnson

@ConnieSchwandt I agree, but I think that group is called church or temple, or whatever. I think it would be best if you teach your children about the world and all it's wonderful diversity, don't you? Or you can keep them in your bubble, I guess. 

StanleyJames
StanleyJames

@FrankDorka Molesters come from very religious families where talking about sex, masturbation etc etc are forbidden

Eventually some go bad - their curiousity get the best of them and f they go for kids the age when their natural curiosity and sexual expression eg masturbation was supressed  Its called sexual immaturity


Why did the regular BSA have a problem -- many of the troops are sponsored by right wing churches described above and put their sexually immature adults into leadership


And of couse the BSA kept these vile crimes secret for so very long - utterly criminal.

markflickner
markflickner

@FrankDorka 

The vast majority of abuse happened before any of the current youth protection guidelines and screening where in place.

Currently the largest problem with youth safety is abuse to youth by other youth, even before the new policy.

My real issue is that most parents would not put boys and girls together in the same tent. Why would you put a boy attracted to another boy in the same tent. The current policy says that unless the parent of the homosexual boy request separate sleeping arrangements the Leaders can do nothing.

I will not put my daughter in the same tent as a boy, I will not put my son in the same tent as another boy that is attracted to him.  This is not homophobia, this is common sense.

If you disagree with that then your part of the reason we have dozens of pregnant girls in High School.

GaryWilson1
GaryWilson1

@FrankDorka And most of the BSA cases occurred back before the country as a whole recognized the problem of child abuse  in many venues in the in the mid 1980's with the Martin Pre-School case.  

BSA then became a leader in educating people about Youth Protection and creating barriers to it through its Youth Protection Plan, developed in conjunction with the FBI in the mid -1980s, and cited by the US CDc as a program for other youth groups to emulate. 

markflickner
markflickner

@GaryWilson1 

1st keep in this in mind: Trail Life is not a replacement to BSA, it is a home to those that are leaving BSA because we do not agree with the new membership policy as well as other issues like being $450 million dollars in debt and relying on Corporate dollars to stay afloat.

Trail Life USA was founded with 1200 leaders from 44 states partnered with American Heritage Girls. Both organizations can and are working with several sects of Christianity such as the Catholic Church, conservative branches of Lutherans, Southern Baptist, Assemblies of God, Calvary Chapel. and many others.

AHG started in a living room and grew to 20,000 youth in 18 years by word of mouth alone.

Most likely TLU will match or surpass the current AHG numbers.  Both organizations will continue to grow as people see that the overall agenda of BSA is to be open to homosexuals both youth and leaders.  The new President of the National Council already said the new membership policy did not go far enough. 

Churches who think nothing will change... BSA National fired their lead council of 7 years because he could not legally defend the new policy for upcoming court cases.

Also, Royal Rangers were not a BSA imitator, they were a denominational specific discipleship program with some outdoor elements.  They never claimed to be an alternate to BSA.

Gary, you really need to do some more research.

mary.waterton
mary.waterton

@GaryWilson1

Yes, but that was back in the day before the BSA opened the doors to homosexuals and pedophiles. My 2 boys will be going to one of these.

KaySun
KaySun

@skyguynick 

No device I'm assuming they go by the old fashioned honesty principle. Why would gay people want to partake in an organization that supports hetrosexuality and Christian values?

KaySun
KaySun

@StanleyJames 

Stanley, Just a question are you Mormon and what specifically in their principles allows for gays in youth groups? Why do they think that is a good idea. I am not Mormon and Christian but all the Mormon's I've known are intelligent and good people. 

EagleScout
EagleScout

@neilscott6 So... Let's form a group slamming the Boy Scouts and then make a policy that is even more lax than the policy we just slammed the Scouts for... Smells like hypocracy to me.

KaySun
KaySun

@Ann_Coultergeist 

I never heard of God hating fags but the bible speaks of Adam and Eve not Eve and Eve or Adam and Adam if you are Christian.  Real Christians don't hate gay people. They just believe it is wrong. There is a difference from believing something is wrong and hating people because of it.

EagleScout
EagleScout

@DeweySayenoff Hitler met Baden-Powell in the 1930's and was amazed at what Scouting was. It was no surprise that he blantanly ripped off the concept and then perverted what Scouting was into a twisted program of hate. BP was insulted and really sickened by what he saw, and that was part of the reason he moved to Africa and remained in Kenya until he died.

sixtymile
sixtymile

@Clarknt67 Well, it often seemed to be that way in the BSA anyway even without the LG controversy. The unacknowledged truth is it just wasn't always as obvious.

tommix
tommix

@JeffreyJohnson @ConnieSchwandt I agree. I think churches and temples are part of the wonderful diversity too, don't you? It's also wonderful that everyone in this country is free to tell others what to teach their children, and the parents are free to accept your advice or otherwise just raise their own children as they see fit, as long as they don't harm anyone or infringe on other people's rights. 

KaySun
KaySun

@JeffreyJohnson @ConnieSchwandt 

You teach them Christian principles. Explain the sin in the world and when they become adults they chose. They don't need to be exposed to this at a young age. 

KaySun
KaySun

@markflickner @FrankDorka 

I agree markflickner. I'm not putting my sons in a tent with another boy that is attracted to them either! Or with girls that they are attracted to. Just not a good idea either way.

FrankDorka
FrankDorka

@markflickner @FrankDorka Would you allow your son to be in a tent with a boy that HE is attracted to? You never know, especially in this day and age, which of the manliest, macho "all boy" scouts play on the opposite team, so to speak.

ChristianPriest
ChristianPriest

Mary,

You are a dispicible mother. I pity your two boys. I pray that one of them is not gay because you will inflict undo harm. They will grow up and see you as a bigot, just like the bigots of yesteryear.

Melve
Melve

@mary.waterton @GaryWilson1 You're an idiot. How long ago do you think their inclusionary policy took effect?

Pity on your two misguided boys.

StanleyJames
StanleyJames

@KaySun @skyguynick chrisitan values - I have a t shirt I made long ago   - "conservative values'  synonym for hatred of some iminority

StanleyJames
StanleyJames

@KaySun @StanleyJames  Until you dig around a littel with them and challenge them, they are nice.  If  you do  the digging you will find all sorts of "god hates'   re gay people

I thought god was about love for all his creation.

StanleyJames
StanleyJames

@KaySun @Ann_Coultergeist And thanks to what they believed was right they justified slavery as per the bible, hated jews re Christ's death and that formed the foundation for the holocaust., which btw included also 100,000 gays, 400,000 gypsies etc etc

markflickner
markflickner

@FrankDorka @markflickner 

If my son was struggling with the temptation of being attracted to another male why would I allow him to put himself in a situation to make the situation worse?

I struggle with pornography, but because I love my wife I go to great lengths to protect our family.  Accountability, lack of access in private area of the home, and so forth.

Just because someone is born with a desire to do something that does not make it right to do.  If this were the case then empty the prisons because we have no right to tell others that their actions are morally wrong if it truly what they desired to do.

The problem with the homosexual argument is that it is assuming that a desire one is born with makes the action OK.

Where do you get your standards from right and wrong from?

They have to come from some place.

Public Opinion?  Why did we stop the Germans then?

Government? Then Stalin was not wrong for killing millions.

Every where you go in the world stealing is wrong, killing someone is wrong. Why, God wrote his commandments on the heart of all men.

We are all born in sin, Jesus died to forgive you and me for our sins.


GaryWilson1
GaryWilson1

@FrankDorka @GaryWilson1 There have been very few in the last 30 years, considering the fact that BSA is the largest youth organization with a few million members.  

While any case is abhorrent and not tolerated,  BSA's record over the past 30 years in this is statistically beter than some public school systems, such as Los Angeles.

StanleyJames
StanleyJames

@mary.waterton @ChristianPriest MARY WATERTON IS BACK. This is a pseudonym of someone from the total nutcasess of the westboro baptist church - traced to them via their internet address


She is one of the creeps who stomp on our American flag and hate gays, jews, catholics, balcks etc and absoltutley everyone. except their own mysgonistic selfves

JeffreyJohnson
JeffreyJohnson

@mary.waterton @ChristianPriest How sad are you and your hate that consumes you? I hope your children learn what a horrible person and mother you are. I'm sure they will at some point. After all God put his beloved gay children here to out haters like you that burn in a fire of your own making for all time. 

mary.waterton
mary.waterton

@ChristianPriest 

Yes, I am a "homophobic bigot" and I thank you for the compliment. All 4 of my children a champions. Gifted, talented, happy, good morals and not a homosexual or lesbian in the brood. Do you know why? Because no one is born homosexual. It's a choice. I teach my children how to THINK and how to tell the TRUTH from a LIE. Keep your eyes peeled. One of them might end up on the Supreme Court.