Apparently McDonald’s Thinks Its Employees Have Swimming Pools and Nannies

The fast-food giant gave some spectacularly optimistic tipping advice on its employee website

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In a post on its employee website, McDonald’s gave some particularly tone-deaf holiday tipping advice to its employees, suggesting what they might give to an au pair or a pool cleaner as a holiday bonus.

The tipping guide, drawn from the work of etiquette guru Emily Post, suggests giving an au pair “a gift from your family (one week’s pay), plus a small gift from your child,” CNBC reports. A pool cleaner should get the cost of one cleaning, and a housekeeper one day’s pay. Other suggestions include what to give garage attendants, massage therapists and personal fitness trainers. All this while fast-food workers, who earn an average of $9 an hour, went on strike across the country Thursday seeking an increase in minimum wage to $15 an hour.

A McDonald’s spokesperson told CNBC in an email: “This is content provided by a third-party partner and quotes from one of the best-known etiquette gurus, Emily Post. We continue to review the resource and will ask the vendor to make changes as needed.”

Maybe this is just McDonald’s way of expressing support for a wage increase. How many au pairs can you hire on a $15-an-hour wage?

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[CNBC]

36 comments
john_rambo
john_rambo

Somebody's loving it. Screw Emily Post.

CharlesMoakler
CharlesMoakler

There are people who study commerce and people who study, specifically, the commerce of food.serves Listening to them they list the McDonalds Model and the Chick-fil-a models, compairing them. McDonalds relys on teens and the uneducated for their workforce. They are badly managed and make lousy employees, but they work cheap. Chic-fil-a trains everyone, expects everyone to be thoughtfull and courteous, and they pay them better. Chick-fil-a employees report enjoying their jobs.

RickSander
RickSander

Not everyone at McDonalds is flipping burgers.  A sizable number of people at McDonalds, career employees who are likely to use the site work in logistics, management and finance from middle management to white collar executives.  McDonalds isn't a sweat shop.  It;s a fortune 500 company that whether you guys like it or not is hugely internationally popular and it provides thousands of career opportunities.

JohnHubers
JohnHubers

$15/hour?  Try $7/hour - the kind of wage that forces McDonald's employees to become pool boys themselves simply to stay alive.  

PaulSwit
PaulSwit

Let's just raise the federal minimum wage to $100 and be done with it already.  Of course this won't change the price of goods and services, and everyone will be richer.  Heck, even some of the top executives may enjoy a pay increase and everyone will be happy.  There's no downside here.

Oh, wait, I must have had a liberal *tard moment. Of course the minimum wage is a scam designed to force poverty on the masses and to trap low-achieving people into a feeling of despair and resentment.  Just the fact that there IS a minimum wage is the reason there will ALWAYS be a poverty line in America and that so many people will live close to it.  Eliminate the federal minimum wage, make employers compete for their employees and watch everyone start earning what they are worth.  We could eliminate poverty in America, but the first step is that we'd have to eliminate the federal minimum wage.

MichaelBaeza
MichaelBaeza

Not enough information provided.  How much are McDonalds employees supposed to tip their landscapers, manicurists, and butlers??

ChikuMisra
ChikuMisra

No sugar coating it. Mcd is either very stupid or mean to send a memo like this to a bunch of struggling poor people

OzarkGranny
OzarkGranny

 Not only can you not hire an au pair on a $15 / hour salary, you can't hire an au pair for $15 an hour. 

locohoya
locohoya

I'm taking my pool cleaner and my nanny to dinner at McD's ....

Openminded1
Openminded1

MC Donalds should fire the moron who allowed that memo to go out, just for being stupid. I guess the moron was thinking of franchise owners, or corporate VP's, or maybe he or she was just plain stupid. Either way they should let the clown send future memos.

yellow2
yellow2

McDonalds employees make $15 per hour?

ed2d2
ed2d2

It's a pretty standard tipping guide, this is a reach. 

oemb1905
oemb1905

conflating emily post with micky ds are we?

TomS5
TomS5

I'm pretty sure every one of those professions listed earns more than a normal McDonald's employee. At least they were kind enough to include the doorman. Wouldn't want the homeless people sleeping on the stoop of public housing feeling down because none of the buildings residents remembered them for the holidays.  

cblazina
cblazina

it's more likely that a mc d employee would, also, have a 2nd job as a pool cleaner, nanny, etc

chuckdm
chuckdm

@RickSander  Yanno, it's not that you're wrong.  You're right.  You're totally right.  In sweatshops, the product (clothes) requires more skill to make, and the workers get penalized when they get an order wrong.  They also get paid more per unit of work done.  And yes, clearly the site was designed for middle management.  Of course, never mind that virtually everyone who can afford an Au Pair in the first place - at McDonald's or anywhere else - can also probably afford a personal financial advisor who would either let them know this or take care of it for them.  The area between "can afford Au Pair" and "can afford stock broker" is pretty slim, income-wise, if they don't overlap entirely.


But more to the point, the article isn't finding fault in the advice.  The article is finding fault in the absolute lack of tact which which the advice was distributed on a public web site that is CLEARLY geared towards the average line worker who does NOT make enough money to feed themselves, much less tip a pool boy.  That's the issue here.  This is something corporate should've put in a memo to the executives who can afford to have an Au Pair in the first place, not posted on a public web site for their 37 year old "not quite sweatshop" workers.  I say 37 because, no, teenagers aren't working these jobs any more.  Now the teens simply aren't working, and instead of a career at the auto plant, McD's is now employing the people who used to be middle class, before that disappeared, and instead of providing them with a reasonable salary and a tiny retirement account in exchange for 40+ years of their life, now they get less than the poverty line if they work 40 hours a week, and are assumed to retire on hopes and dreams, if they ever retire at all.


The point is, this is America.  You can't ask your parents for a loan to start your small business when your parents are, for the most part, flipping burgers.  You can't "pull yourself up by your own bootstraps" when you can't afford boots.  And nobody can buy an iPhone when they're struggling just to buy supper off the Dollar Menu.


Raising the minimum wage alleviates ALL of these problems.  When the common worker has money, they spend it, specifically because they aren't rich and they don't have enough to save anyway, even if they made triple what they do now.  They spend it paying bills, buying new clothes, new cars, and new gadgets - all the things they can't afford at $9/hour.  And when they do that, guess where that money goes?  Yep, right back into the pockets of the very companies that refuse to give them a raise.  One of the other articles here is about how fast food joints desperately want to get rid of their "dollar menus."  If they really want to do that, they can start by making people feel like they can splurge and get the Big Mac instead of penny pinching to afford their next iPhone.  Raising the minimum wage will do exactly that.


Essentially, the minimum wage is step one.  It's the alpha, the origin, the big bang.  Without it, it doesn't matter how cheap everything is, nobody has money, so nobody buys.  The higher it goes, the more gets bought.  That benefits everyone, even the very corporations that oppose it.


But as to the article, it's spot on.  As long as management is going to refuse to offer their underlings a living wage, it's just bad form to rub the fact that they have money - when the workers don't - in their faces like this.

Leann
Leann

@RickSander Dude, I worked there. Most of my MANAGERS were still making minimum. And even if some employees can afford this garbage, it's an incredible insult to the 99% who can't.

Puddingheadx
Puddingheadx

@JohnHubers "forces" lol.  I wasn't aware McD's was going house to house kidnapping ppl.  Maybe people should Get education, learn a trade and make better life choices and you wouldn't be forced work place like that entire life. 

Leann
Leann

@PaulSwit There is NOTHING stopping them from competing already. There is no reason to pay below or even at the current minimum. They should ALREADY be competing, and the fact that they aren't is proof that they won't. A full time minimum wage job already means poverty, and you want people paid less than that? And $100 per hour is a complete strawman. No one has ever suggested even a fourth of that. And you want to call liberals "tards"? First, REAL mature, second, try taking a look in the mirror.

Cabaedium
Cabaedium

@PaulSwit Spoken like someone who's never worked for less than living wages, nor considered the condition of those who do...

yshabazz2
yshabazz2

@PaulSwit Just imagine if we lowered their pay to a mere $.50  per hour.  Then by your logic they would be fabulously wealthy.

Dan_Jefferies
Dan_Jefferies

@PaulSwit Naw...let's just identify everyone making less than $15 an hour an deport 'em. Obviously they're all lazy losers making a living on the backs of us hard workers...

docrobert151
docrobert151

@Leann @RickSander Manager of a store is not middle management. He was referring to the corporate office - not a restaurant. 

chuckdm
chuckdm

@Puddingheadx @JohnHubers  Get an education?  Me and what money?  Where do I magically pull the $8,000 per semester to afford one?  Nevermind that I personally have one, how does someone making $7/hour afford over $2,500 a month for an education?


Scholarship, perhaps?  Sure, except that all the scholarships in the entire United States would barely pay for an Associates Degree for 0.7% of the country, even including athletic scholarships.  At that rate, you might as well just play the lottery and hope you get even luckier.


Parents?  Fine, except that over 60% of all fast food workers now ARE parents, and even parents over the age of 30 now make up a MAJORITY of fast food workers.  So what, go back to college on your grandparents retirement, which they're likely to outlive?  Fine, but when grandpa is lingering to death in a state-run nursing home you're gonna feel really bad.  Hopefully your own grandkids don't do the same to you!


The point is, it isn't about McDonald's forcing people at gunpoint to take a job there, and your suggestion is about as tone deaf as the original article.  There are NOT enough jobs, with or without training, for everyone in the american workforce right now.  There simply aren't.  It's math.  It's not about education, even if people could afford it.  There are X slots, Y applicants, and for the first time in american history, Y is greater than X.  That's a real problem with no easy solution, but the best we can do right now is to make sure that those who DO have a job have enough pay to sustain the economy until everyone who wants a job can get one.  And the minimum wage does exactly that.

Leann
Leann

@Puddingheadx Where I'm from, it takes a year after applying just to get a job at McDonald's.... Regardless of your education. Life choices don't always play into it.

docrobert151
docrobert151

@Leann @yellow2 Your managers didnt make minimum wage - nobody would take on the additional responsibility for less pay. Most are on salary. You're trolling. 

mik661
mik661

@docrobert151@Leann@RickSanderYes like I said 2800 employees at corporate headquarters. Just another example of tone deaf masters of the universe completely out of touch with the reality of the wage slaves they exploit while my tax dollars go to pay so their kids have food in their mouths and basic medical care.

JessicaWeber
JessicaWeber

@docrobert151 @Leann @yellow2 Dude, she's not.  I worked as a manager at Taco Bell (briefly before college) and made...minimum wage.  Where I live now, unemployment is so bad that to get a bottom tier management job at a retail establishment you need a college degree to make...12 bucks an hour.  A college degree.  Seriously.  And they can do it because the good paying jobs simply aren't there.