Amazon is at War with Monster Erotica

Is a libidinous Big Foot going extinct?

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According to a long-read at Business Insider, “cryptozoological erotica” readers and writers are in as precarious a situation as a college co-ed who finds herself trapped in ancient ruins with a libidinous Minotaur.

Following the October publication of The Kernel’s soon-viral article called “An Epidemic of Filth,” which called out online book purveyors for selling ebooks with “rape fantasies, incest porn and graphic descriptions of bestiality and child abuse,” online publishers have been making it much more difficult to buy and sell monster porn. Business Insider reports that Amazon has been particularly on the offensive against the genre.

The Cum for Bigfoot series might not be on the road to winning a Pulitzer, but the self published ebook — a part of the widely popular “monster porn” genre — has a dedicated following that makes author Virginia Wade a net of $30,000 or more in a good month.

Wade and other authors have noticed that ebooks that have been available for more than a year are getting pulled from virtual sales for “being in violation of [Amazon's] content guidelines,” although the publisher won’t disclose what the violation is.  While some erotica is allowed, authors said that they are noticing taboo subject matter (like human/velociraptor relations) is taking a big hit.

Erotica authors have noticed that covertly changing cover art, book descriptions (which is problematic since readers then don’t know the graphic scenes in store), and titles have allowed them to put their books back on the shelves, it is taking a significant toll on sales. Emerald Ice told Business Insider that she was able to reinstate Alien Sex Slave after changing its name, but her sales have plummeted because “If I was a reader searching for hot alien sex books, I wouldn’t look twice at something called Sidney’s Alien Escapades.

104 comments
EmilySmith
EmilySmith

This sort of genre has been extant in Japanese culture for a long time,albeit in the form of animation or "hentai" as they call it (a very curious phenomenon).If you think any of those mentioned above are oddities and agree with the censorship move by Amazon, then you haven't seen the one by arcadia black which i'm sure would make your head spin and explode on the spot http://www.lulu.com/spotlight/arcadiablack mine surely did.



jt98
jt98

No,It's a shame we have become a society too damn dumb to recognize Humor when we see it.Theres no excuse for Rape or Incest but 'Taken by the Pterodactyl' actually offends and shocks? Really?


I am beginning to have serious doubts about your commitment to Sparkle Motion....

j4ckl3
j4ckl3

Isn't it a damn shame that we as a society just have to find something like this kind of material for our minds to delve into when there is just SOOO much more.  Look for every need there is someone to pander to it.  I am not one for censorship.  I would just hope that there would be some people who would think there is just better things to put into their brain.  But hey....

tsussexe
tsussexe

This is very unfortunate. No book, regardless of content should ever be censored or prevented from being sold by a public company such a s Amazon. I notice The Kernel doesn't allow comments on their site. Also interesting the authors only puts a drawing of his face on the article. Shame on these puritanical publications for forcing their prudish view on everyone. I certainly support their right to wright and distribute their prudish ideology.

Marlene
Marlene

Amazon doesn't have to sell this stuff but the manner in which they are filtering or outright banning is shady.  Amazon's content guidelines leave a lot to be desired.  Their explanation of what they deem "offensive" is "...pretty much what you would expect."  Vague to say the least as what I find offensive and a 90 year old nun finds offensive are probably pretty different.  They won't tell authors what they deem to be in violation, not even something as simple as it's the cover or content.  If Amazon and the other retailers don't want this kind of stuff, they should have the courage of their convictions and spell it out in their guidelines specifically instead of hiding behind vague wording and banning books behind the scenes.


Not to mention that Amazon, as well as most online book retailers, don't have user controlled filters.  While Amazon is banning monster erotica, they will gladly sell your nine year old daughter a vibrator or a romance novel filled with explicit sex.  Instead of letting authors and publishers sell legal products (writing about rape, incest and the like is legal) but let the users decide what products they want to see in searches and then buy, Amazon decides for you.  So your son can buy picture books full of naked women because they aren't categorized under erotica but you can't get your fix of bigfoot sex.  Instead of empowering customers, Amazon is controlling what you see and not doing a very good job if keeping adult products hidden from those that don't want to or shouldn't see them is the goal.


As for erotic fiction, it's fantasy.  If writing about having sex with monsters or step dads and their step daughters doing it is objectionable, then every book with a murder in it should be banned.  If writing about fantasy sex is so horrible then isn't writing about fantasy murder even more horrible?  Amazon peddles books.  They claim to support free speech and freedom of expression.  Then they go filter and ban books that they, for whatever reasons, find objectionable.  Would you want Amazon deciding what murder mysteries and thrillers you can and can't read?  This one's too gruesome and that one involved a seventeen year old victim. I doubt it and you probably don't want them telling you what fictional sexual fantasies are valid which are not either.  What's next?  Gay and lesbian content?  Political books?


Amazon doesn't have to sell anything it doesn't want but the company should be open and honest about it.  Their secrecy says a lot about how they feel about their business partners (self-published authors) and their customers.

JESUSISURSAVIOR
JESUSISURSAVIOR

Thank God. It's about time. Porn is ruining young adults and society.

justthefacts232
justthefacts232

So a private company is not allowed to choose the products it wants to sell? This is called censorship? Even the product is complete garbage? If there is a real demand for these bizarre fetish genres then there will be plenty of Internet holes where such material can be found. Some companies might just want to hold themselves to a higher standard.

JamesFeeney
JamesFeeney

Hay. Freedom of speech. I won't buy it, but if there is an attempt to ban it, then maybe I will.

wrathbrow
wrathbrow

Not my thing at all. 

But if a person does not like it, don't buy it.

JohnDagne
JohnDagne

I blame TV. Genie and Tony finally hook-up, and can get married! Same with Mork and Mindy, Bewitched, Human DNA shared with beasts and creating children,  Showing happy stories about beastiality has finally had its fruition.

orionmetalhead
orionmetalhead

Why is everyone assuming that it's right-wingers that want this stuff removed? Look up Amazon and there is no indication that the company leans right. If anything, they lean left, with Bezos donating more money to the Democrats.

SeattleAl
SeattleAl

I find this interesting. A few years ago I complained to Amazon about a title they were selling: "Jesus Christ Serial Rapist". They wrote me back and told me that they didn't censor what they sold. If you look at their site, you'll see it's still for sale.


So, Amazon thinks it's OK to sell porn material completely offensive to billions of Christians, but draws the line at cryptozoological erotica. Go figure.

kmdcompelect
kmdcompelect

Things I learned from this article 


1. cryptozoological erotica is a thing


2.  Monster Pron is "widely popular"


3. I should probably try my hand at writing some


4. Amazons rejection of this genera is cause to reevaluate my investment in their company



filmmaster04
filmmaster04

 monster porn?


this is the first time I her the term. Obviously the objective is to shame and stigmatize anyone interested in those kind of books.it 


I'm never going to understand those people who claim to love freedom, and then want everyone to follow their moral code(except themselves).


if those books are legal, it would be a shame for Amazon to remove them because a few right-wing extremists complain.  It just like those people that complain, because the Simpsons showed a bare butt... or those claiming full frontal nudity has skyrocketed on television without mentioning its pixalated..

filmmaster04
filmmaster04

monster porn?


this is the first time I her the term. Obviously the objective is to shame and stigmatize anyone interested in those kind of books.it 


I'm never going to understand those people who claim to love freedom, and then want everyone to follow their moral code(except themselves).


if those books are legal, it would be a shame for Amazon to remove them because a few right-wing extremists complain.  It just like those people that complain, because the Simpsons showed a bare butt... or those claiming full frontal nudity has skyrocketed on television without mentioning its pixalated..

KenWheel
KenWheel

I don't need someone deciding what I should purchase and read.


Just a bit too Orwellian for me Bezos

TimeNinja
TimeNinja

Amazon is right! Im so sick of these cross-species stories and absolute filth like The Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast and Shrek. If Amazon doesn't take a stand then who is going to protect our children from dinosaur erotica?

ToniTobin
ToniTobin

Buy this book.  It's only $2.99 and makes a statement against censorship.  This isn't my genre of choice, but Amazon too often takes a self-righteous stance until the money comes into play.

SomeGuySays
SomeGuySays

amazon needs to grow up . so some one wants to watch a tentacle monster violate a school girl or a dinosaur F some ladies A big deal . adults should be able to watch it and amazon should be happy they get money . damn feminist ruined our military and half of the female marines cant do 3 damn pull ups and cry about having ptsd more often than males and now amazon gets all ghey about porn and i bet some women think its a step in the right direction 

Reev
Reev

Normally, I am against censorship. However, recently I was looking on Amazon Kindle for Dutch Oven recipe books...boy, was I in for a surprise!

I still don't understand the connection, but, I was given links to hundreds of books w/rape & incest fantasys.

I didn't so much mind that they were offered, but, that I found them looking for cook books.

Perhaps, if they were only available if you ASK for them...?

CarlKravis
CarlKravis

Well I guess if she has to ruin her life let her ruin her life. Personally I don't view that as being right; I wouldn't watch that. It would probably damage my mind. I'm sorry she did that, but I guess she has a sick mind.

vulpes08003
vulpes08003

I am so glad to see an emerging market in quality literature

vegassmitty
vegassmitty

Now that Amazon has started collecting sales tax in Nevada they can kiss my arse!

TAF
TAF

Yet again Amazon and others are being taken to task instead of parents. Little known fact apparently is that people cannot just stumble upon these books while browsing Amazon.Com. They have to actively look for them. They will never show up in recommendations until after a purchase is made. So in order to actually know about this stuff, the people complaining have been actively looking for it. And thus they are engaging in a nice reaction formation to cover for them enjoying such material.


Second, whatever happened to being a parent? When I was a child I was told that I could not read book X, watch show Y, or play Game Z. If I did, then I got punished for it. My mother did not run to the store or arcade and rip them a new one because they let me access it. I got the new one ripped because I disobeyed.


Now it is suddenly everyone else is at fault when a child misbehaves except the child and parent and everyone else is responsible for the media the child can potentially consume except the parent.

fafoxy11772
fafoxy11772

@jt98  It would be a MUCH better book if it were: "Taken By The Gay Pterodactyl".

thomaspainern
thomaspainern

@Marlene  Well said.

I agree the double standard is ludicrous. But Amazon is a private company and can enact as many ridiculous and arbitrary rules as it wants. My guess is that it is not Amazon which objects, but that a vocal minority has raised enough noise that they have acquiesced in the interest of avoiding negative press.

Crystal221
Crystal221

@Marlene Your examples of what Amazon will sell while banning monster erotica are not good examples because if they are gladly selling a vibrator, a explicit filled romance novel, or a picture book full of naked women to a kid, they don't know it. Like all online retailers, Amazon does not know ages of their customers. Most children/teenagers do not own a credit card which is required when buying from Amazon.

EthanGill
EthanGill

@JESUSISURSAVIOR  is that why the Christian bible condones the slaughter of the Midianites and the marrying off of all their virgin woman childs (children) to his soldiers? 

The church was ruining our young adults. Teaching them bigotry. 

FrankBlank
FrankBlank

@orionmetalhead That's mere anti-fascism.  Amazon is rabidly anti-union, right down the right wing turnpike. 

JamesFeeney
JamesFeeney

@SeattleAl Well, I guess you had better not buy it then. But maybe your'e curiosity gets the better of you. You can't help but think about the provocative title. Finally your curiosity get's the best of you, and you plunk down the $19.95 +S&H, and it's as bad as you thought. Meanwhile the author has just bought his 5th Lamborgini with that last $19.95 you sent him. He's living high on the hog, while you troll the internet looking for offensive material. If people want to write that $^!T, then that's fine. I don't have to buy it. You on the other hand have to look into everything, and expose all the filth for everybody to see, and you call all sorts of attention to it, so everybody knows about it. Hmmmm.... You may be making more money for those authors than they would have if you didn't do anything.

wrathbrow
wrathbrow

While I agree with your general idea of how people and companies are selective in what they enforce, you also know the book (I just looked, and yes it is still there) is not about Jesus Christ himself, but a person that thinks they are.

al.wells
al.wells

@filmmaster04 You're right. While I can't fathom finding interest in this sort of writing, it amazes me that so many republicans got upset over people not sitting quietly for Phil Robertson's comments yet they lead the charge to suppress any art, science or person they don't agree with. 

CordovanSplotch
CordovanSplotch

@TimeNinja Only The Little Mermaid is cross-species of those three, unless you count the Donkey/Dragoness hot lovin'.

Krista
Krista

@SomeGuySays This has nothing to do with feminism... I am totally against censorship, and was with you until you decided to go into a misogynist rant.

GKA
GKA

@Reev YIKES! But that really isn't a matter of censorship needed. That is a product of poor programming and design. Obvious adult oriented materials should be enabled through specific steps to turn those results on. Perhaps the problem is that there are no rating on books, but I am certain if an "Adult" or "Erotic" category existed, that authors of such works would have no problem  putting it in that category. Those categories should default to Off and be turned on after a verification step.


It is Amazons poor design work that caused your unfortunate result and shows an obvious failure in design and implementation. So It seems likely, you are still against censorship, but you are also against poor design work too!



ScottieBinions
ScottieBinions

@CarlKravis How is she ruining her life exactly? Because you and your ilk have a low opinion of her? I'm sure you don't factor much into her equation in terms of whatever it is she is writing, but you probably assume your position matters. 

nora89
nora89

@CarlKravis For $30K per month I'd could stand ruining my life a little too! Personally I don't care what some other adult reads and neither should anyone else. The book is some silly exercise in fantasy but it evidently has a following and shouldn't be censored just because some people find it 'icky'. Personally I enjoyed 'Venus on a Halfshell' by Philip Jose Farmer (as Kilgore Trout) back in the day myself and it has a scene with the hero in a sexual encounter with a cat woman.

TAF
TAF

@vegassmittyGet used to it because the day is coming when internet sales will be taxed across the board.

Reev
Reev

@TAFNot so...go to Amazon Kindle I search 'dutch oven'...

siremeric
siremeric

JamesFeeney  If you think book authors are driving Lamborghinis then you are living in a fantasy world. I know several authors and playwrites, and they all have to maintain day jobs to live.  Amazon probably keeps 60-75% of that $19.95 you paid.  The author would have to sell 2000 copies just to buy a used Ford Focus.

The titles are meant to provoke curiosity and get you to buy the book.  It's the same with the word "sale" in retail stores.

CordovanSplotch
CordovanSplotch

@Krista @SomeGuySays I'm pretty sure the rape fantasy books were taken down because of feminism... and hell, since feminism has entire branches dedicated to eliminating almost all porn, I'd say you're being awfully naive to claim that this has nothing to do with feminism.

DarrynCooke
DarrynCooke

@TAF - what is wrong with that? You pay a sales tax if you go into a store, but if you purchase online you don't think it fair that you pay a similar tax?

kmdcompelect
kmdcompelect

@Reev @TAF 


you got me curious, so I tried it, I got page after page of dutch oven recipe books.  What am I missing here?

thomaspainern
thomaspainern

@siremeric Well, the article does say the writer of the "Bigfoot" series makes up to 30k a month. Maybe you should encourage those "author and playwright" friends of yours to start writing some monster porn!

ScottieBinions
ScottieBinions

@Reev No, you are just making stuff up or someone you know was actively searching for stuff like that using your logged in account. 

Reev
Reev

@kmdcompelect@Reev@TAFWow! Then they have responded to complaints. When I did it I got one dutch oven cookbook & DOZENS of incest & rape fantasy porn. 

Glad they fixed it...